We feel that IFMAs So, if youre looking for a cheap AR-15, Rock An xdm9 and a 1911 loaded. The plant where that rifle is made revitalized the area n which it is made. if you run a company and you dont know whats going on this is what you deserve. When a big box store is competitive on price with the local gun shop, you know there is a problem. Springfields crime here is they didnt immediately counter the IFMA when the IFMA dropped opposition to a bill. Springfield Armory *deserves* to be pitchforked and torched. I buy and shoot a lot of guns, and this includes SA models, but I have put them on notice that I will never buy another unless they make this right. Find gray, black, tan, alpine and other finishes on these .223 Rem / 5.56mm, .450 Bushmaster or 6.8 SPC chambered rifles. thats what matter and they put that last. It washis lobbyist whostood aside on a bill that rations everyday Illinoisans to nine firearm transfers per year. Springfield for intention; RRA for negligence. So, S and W are also dead to me. Fuck them for gouging desperate buyers. Welp. If that hurts a company whos sold you out, good. Rock River LAR-8 .308. Weve even got a state-centric message board/forum promoting gun rights. But do they double down on their error (Target) or put things into place that not only fix the error but make them new and better than ever. Huh? In your opinion. When S&W is in the position to potentially block anti-gun legislation but decides not to because it is better for their business even if it screws their customers, THEN YOU WILL SEE ME call for an S&W boycott. We will support our Illinois brethren and NOT purchase anything from Springfield Armory or RRA. Your opinion and yourre entitled to it and welcome to voice it here, though it seems you prefer that others not voice theirs if they disagree with you. Ruger, S&W, Springfield, Rock River, Ive seen people complain about Glock and Colt, Hex Mag, and about a dozen more. CEODennis Reese hasntresponded to a request for comment or a further statement beyond the one he released Thursday night. If they are both single stage, they will basically feel the same. As the old adage goes, put up or shut up. But I struggle with the NEVER AGAIN WILL I EVER SUPPORT THIS COMPANY. Bill is long gone and the last 15yrs of Ruger leadership have taken a much different stance. However, if youre willing to spend a little extra money on your rifle, Rock River Arms is definitely worth considering. The Reese clan has done dirty deals before, got busted too, http://www.upi.com/Archives/1989/03/16/Salvador-based-Army-colonel-indicted-on-bribery-charges/5406606027600/, RRA sells to NY LE supporting the SAFE act, which is trying to put a vet away for 21 years for having 17rd mags (no gun, just mags), http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2017/04/veteran_faces_21_years_in_prison_for_possession_of_pistol_magazines.html. If IFMA had stood shoulder-to-shoulder with the NRA-ILA, the Illinois State Rifle Association, Guns Save Lifeand the National Shooting Sports Foundation working as a team to oppose this egregiousbill wed have had a good chance of depriving anti-gunners of a badly needed win. January 2023. Good for them. If youve already implemented them, great. It happens ALL THE TIME, and with companies much larger than RRA. They keep voting for F#$%ing Democrats. Please, spend your money where you want. September 30, 2010 By Greg Rodriguez. Whats more, Larson seems genuinely appalled by what happened. Both companies are stalwart defenders of 2A rights and arent in the habit of heavily funding Bloomberg puppet, anti gun politicians, as has been discovered of both SA and RRA. CZ-75/85 are great guns. Springfield Armory, Rock River Arms Trade Opposition to Illinois FFL Licensing Scheme for Carve-Out. Its a freakin disaster. I considered buying an XDs when I was looking for a conceal carry, glad I bought something else. Oh yes, Illinois folks: start an ACTIVE campaign outing all the IL Representatives that voted for the bill. Dont own a Springfield anything and now never will. Might see if you can find one to test out. Rock River Arms has From what I gathered from this article and all the information I viewed about this organization its hard to say just how much control SA and RRA has over the Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association. Henry and Ruger for the win. Thank God we have a Rural King now here local. my first AR was a rock river arms rrage. And unbelievably stupid of Springfield. Thankfully, we still have two more chances to stop this travesty of a bill. Not to mention that when S&W colluded with Clinton they were owned by the British engineering firm Tomkins. Sadly, some of the collar county Repubs arent so much. If you sell more than 9 guns per year, you are in the business of selling guns. Rock River Arms had one seat. They make a so-so M14 copy that can only stand up because Norinco cant export their el-cheapo copy here anymore. Gun owners have good memories, it will take a year but Springfield like Target will notice their mistake on their Revenue numbers and blame the weather, the president, insert excuse here. Damn This is turning into that mob with the torches looking for Frankenstein. You probably also found out that at least bizapedia reports that the IFMA was dissolved. Youre welcome to come visit and help during the next election cycle. Springfield Armory today is a strong supporter of everything 2A. Yes, very disappointed. I want to see how they fix the mess they created with the people who liked their product. But I wont EVER support a company who actively supports an infringement of any kind. Rock River's LAR-458 is the top pick for hunters because of its value, excellent trigger and superb accuracy. Local politicians always give tax incentives to move. RRA models, like the RRAGE, LAR15, BTB, ATH, LAR68 & Light Mountain, are available in many different color options and calibers. Now for 2022, the company ups the game for hunters with the introduction of the All-Terrain Hunter (ATH) , a mid-length rifle that stands tall in the field of AR-platform hunting rifles. Rock River Arms RRAGE Carbine LAR-15 with ATN Day/Night scope. The law doesnt get past the senate without Springfields cooperation. I was a dedicated 1911 guy and really wanted to stick with something with a grip safety like the EMP contour or even the R-51. Now Im off to call Cabelas and inform them of SAs treachery and why i will not buy from them as long as they carry SA product, http://www.cabelas.com/catalog/search.cmd?recordsPerPage=18&No=0&N=0&nl=true&Ntk=AllProducts&Ntt=Springfield+Armory&search=Search. They rebrand the HS2000 as the XD and jack up the price $200. Their entire C Suite should resign and they need to prove themselves. That is only if Springfield Arms survives this. You are both dead to me now. I think sometimes its just because they are new to the hobby of guns. That alone is enough to put them out of business. They will now go to the top so I can wear them out and use the warranty. Good grip, low muzzle flip/recoil, ambi controls, no mag safety and very easy to strip/reassemble. Do you rednecks and white trash go out of your way to get the their wrong every single time? Thanks a bunch pricks! When you sell high dollar items like firearms, it is really, really, unbelievably stupid, to piss off your customer base at rebate time. Ive refused to buy S&W products since then, with the sole exception of a Model 640 Pro .357 Magnum, which lacks the damned thing. 3/18/2013. I cant imagine the CEOs of those two companies werent in the loop on these negotiations. After the backlash he closed down the store and retired. $14.95 Per Firearm One $9.99 Charge For Any Amount of Accessories It is in between 5.56 and .223, but will safely shoot both. Rock River Arms has a reputation for making high quality AR-15s, but they also have a reputation for being expensive. I will now buy another LAR-8 in case you idiots force RRA out of business. Its their prerogative. Under no circumstances would they sell me any magazines. My favorites in their calibers, cherished in my collections. Rock Rivers AR builds are superb, and they come in at a price thats quite reasonable (starting at $1,585). That said, this just breaks my heart to see this moron Reese damage the brand. Two? What would you have done differently if you ran SA or RRA with a workforce that is similarly trapped in soviet Illinois and depends on your company staying open and profitable to keep their jobs? job creation they call it (bribery is such a dirty word). Cant beat that! At least the company would survive, even if the move was costly. No offense intended. Enjoy shooting it, and the second one if you buy one. It doesnt have to be both for the same reason. SA, who knows, maybe they can retool to make manure spreaders. There is a story of a guy that got run out of business after a hurricane because he jacked his prices up for generators. The more concentrated the producers and sellers of firearms becomes the easier it will be to controlled and monitored. Was very interested in this new pistol too as a possible single-stack semi-auto alternative to my J-frame. I just bought a DDM4V11 in January at an unheard of, low price of $1369. they should have fought not laid over. Its called doing business. Weve been busting our asses to support our friends and punish our enemies. Ive heard of them canceling orders. He kept his marginal Mini-14 from hitting the list, selling out the gun owner in the process! Instead, we were undercut by aself-serving supposed ally. I read somewhere that there is a city named Springfield in almost every state in the Union. Ruger was making superior quality products using totally American resources. Nice deal on it until 4 July as well. Either dont have any or I overpay to have the stock and have it at a price that everyone individual doesnt want to buy the whole lot at once. While it was a great pistol, the front strap checkering was just way too aggressive for bare hands. CTD does our best to price our products at market value. Now I wish I had not. I think probably not. They are good weapons but I Cant help but feel betrayed when I look at them now. WebCoyote Carbine Upper Half LAR-15M .300 AAC. All have been accurate and reliable. Not saying you have to like what happened, but its soviet Illinois, it was going to happen with or without their opposition. Its enough of a turnaround that I forgive their earlier sins.. I agree. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Have you not been following this story? WebRock River Arms RAGE AR-15 Rifle 5.56 Nato / .223 Rem, 16" BBL, 6 Position Stock, M-LOK Free Float Rail, 30 Round, LAR-15M - Model DS1850 Carbine. This rifle also has an RRA TRO-XL extended free float rail handguard and an accuracy of 3/4 MOA at 100 Yards. They mustve been channeling Bill Ruger. The ATH V2 comes with an 18-inch, stainless steel, Today, we have nearly one dozen gun control groups working in Illinois. Cant this fool see how much this is going to hes going to hurt his own pocketbook for this tiny edge? I think it was meant to be used with gloves on only. If theres a silver lining here, this law should be shot down by the courts. The Illinois Manufacturers Association will continue to fight and protect not only manufacturers, but dealers and the gun owner as well.. Maybe then you can explain it to the pussy who wrote this article. Glad to see TTAG not shy away from it. Down side is nobody making spare mags for it yet other than Hornor Defense. Now they will pay the price. Made in US, SSteel frame, ambi controls, no mag safety, field strips/assembles in less than a minute with no tools or pulling trigger. Ive bought 4 guns in the last year and a half since they opened their store. Its easy for consumers to march elsewhere, skilled Illinois tradespeople may not be so lucky. WebA similar thing happened with Yeti and the NRA, where Yeti ended their NRA-specific discount program but included them in a broader discount program. This just proves that point. The rifle comes fully loaded with a Rock River two-stage Yes I am planning on moving. It was a great decision, I have never looked back. What would I do if I was RRA and SAI? AND everyone that the lobbyist represents must be in agreement. Henry? This says a lot about the people running the company. So Rock River spent at least $50.000 fund the Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association. As has been said by numerous others, that Springer I had thought about buying just got thrown under the bus. The silent majority will get the shaft, not gonna be any civil war, get over yourself. It is the fault of the people in Illinois. Compare. At the same time, Rock River Arms began to build AR-15 style rifles. Rock River Arms also produces M1911 pattern pistols, bolt-action rifles, and AR-15 style pistols in assorted calibers. [5] [6] Fuck Ruger as well. And theyre telling their friends. And by the way, sarcastically calling people badasses loses its effect when you get so butthurt by an article that you start calling the author a pu$$y. Helps to have the older experience but not insurmountable. I wont name them, but the sales people at certain companies worked hard (and maybe even fudged some dates on paperwork) to make sure that I got my magazines before the deadline in the law hit. So how is screwing your loyal customer base and flipping them the bird to their faces sound business policy? And I believe it came with an internal lock on the main spring housing. The dimensions and leade of the .223 Remington minimum C.I.P. By the time most of them have and Springfield Arms starts looking for a new home, they wont be welcome there. The Springfields looked to be a good value. The RRAGE pistol features a 10.5-inch barrel. Was going to purchase a TRP and was looking at RRA ar. +1, they are a bunch of liars praying on the ignorant. Aluminum Mags Just Starting At $14.00 At Rock River Arms. They use forged parts and at least the Chinese are honest to let you know where the parts come from (China) whereas with Springfield it is a toss-up where the parts are made (I heard from Taiwan, Canada, even the Czech Republic!!). I hear you on that Ruger. I dont buy imported guns so SA & RRA are not going to loose any sales because of me. My target is when my oldest daughter graduates from high school. They are actively editing social media but refuse to address the issue. Even cosmetologists and lawyers. The vocal retards who screamed about this conveniently ignored that last part. I live in Illinois. And yes, they are actually closer to Iowa than to Chicago. I have to say this really makes me mad. After further review, Rock River Arms, Inc. (RRA) is immediately severing all ties with the Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association (IFMA). Very close to where I grew up. And whats worse, if it passes, Bloomberg will attempt to duplicate this legislation in all 50 states. I only purchase products from them with free shipping because they rape you on shipping. when supply cant meet demand, then the price increases.. this draws more suppliers into the market to meet demand and you see the price decrease. IF WE LOSE RRA BECAUSE OF THIS HYSTERICAL REACTION, thats a blow to liberty. Regardless of who did what,the after-effects of this deal and a legislative loss will be felt far beyond Illinois for some time to come. About three years ago, RRAs Elite Operator hit the market sporting features designed specifically for professionals. Seems like a stand up guy to me. After further review, Rock River Arms, Inc. (RRA) is immediately severing all ties with the Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association (IFMA). We feel that IFMAs integrity is compromised and we will not be a part of the organization. Screw CTD. Nobody moves a company to New York (Remington has moved most out). To whom will they sell? Hugely disappointing. They can spout their support of the 2A all day, just like Shannon Watts does, but its just words. You wont be able to pull a fast one and expect to not get called out on it. Who Makes Rock River Arms? Web50%. Anytown on I80 feels like the Chicago area to the downstaters. Or in the General Assembly. You can learn to make good parts on a CNC a lot faster than on a Bridgeport or SouthBend. Have been eyeballing the SA Saint the last couple weeks. I own or have owned a number of AR's, including a couple of LaRue's, a KAC, a PWS and a POF. His quote was basically the above damned if I do damned if I dont and that it wasnt worth the headache. Your Price: $744.13. Had a Springfield 1911 that I sold late last year to fund another purchase and was thinking of replacing it with a TRP at some point guess this gives me all the excuses I needed to spend a few hundred more for a Dan Wesson or an STI. Some mightsay IFMAs change of heart might not have made a definitive difference. Thats how capitalism works. RRA and Springfield can suck my dong, they will never get a penny from me. Maybe there is a Mrs. Reese or someone or something burning cash on the side (gambling, drugs, who knows) that is consuming profit faster than SA can generate it. WebRock River Arms LAR-15 LEF-T 5.56mm Tactical Operator AR-15 Left-Handed Rifle Notify Me When Available; Brand: Rock River Arms; Item Number: LH1278; Rock River Arms LAR15 Whats the feedback at the NRA show running like? Springfield and Rock River Illinois Sell-Out: Picking up the I dont think youre using that word right. Rock River Arms is an American manufacturer of firearms that was founded in 1996. The LAR-15 X-Series X-1 Rifle in .223/5.56mm from Rock River Arms is available at a manufacturer suggested retail price of $1,450.00 and $1,500.00, depending on the stock and color option (Black and Tan). You would answer your own question if you noticed my opening remark: Ruger was making superior quality products using totally American resources. Not saying you have to like what happened, but its soviet Illinois, it was going to happen with or without their opposition. If Rauner is serious about re-election he will veto this flaming sack of shite. Rock River Arms sent me a 6.5 Creedmoor rifle with a tan stock and 24-inch barrel for testing. I wanted one with the threaded barrel and suppressor sights. Tennessee welcomed Beretta with open arms and the employment of a lot a lot of people in well-paying jobs. Did you expect anything less than shady from the Illinois legislature? Meanwhile, over at the Rock River booth at the NRA convention, owner Chuck Larson has professed innocence in the matter. Neither excuse is a proper justification. WebRock River Arms Two Stage Match Trigger Kit4.5-5 lbThe RRA match AR trigger kit is designed for AR-15 and AR-10 Mil-Spec lower receivers with .154 trigger and hammer pins. And gun control wins, like this keep the gravy train flowing so they can continue to draw a paycheck and keep on going. I know people who continue to not buy Ruger even after his kids made up for the old mans traitorous ways. Hindsight is always 20/20 and the Liberal Dems are always after our Firearms Freedoms. The RRA LAR-15 is a quality gun, in just about any configuration you can come up with. Some would disagree. S&W was owned by a British company who were forced to sell their company for pennies on the dollar. I can promise that none, and I mean none of my not unsubstantial refund, is going to wind up in Springfields receivables account. Whats left after the hate which never leaves? The lobbying group in question received money from SA and RRA back in 2014. They must be put out of business for their treachery. Initially I was willing to give them the benefit of the doubt, but after I thought about Reeses statement, and now that Ive seen Larsons statement, I would have liked to see hecklers run Springfields employees right out of Atlanta. Customer service beyond any reproach. In my collection i have a M1A, a Socom 16, a XDM in 45 and a XDmod2 in 9mm. I have been in similar situations where it is damned if I do damned if I dont. So, if youre looking for a cheap AR-15, Rock River Arms probably isnt the best option. Springfield, on the other hand, has gone silent. There are millions of people in the US who no longer think that its enough to fight and die for these rights. In order to try to get a lock on about 1.6 million FOID holders in Illinois, Springfield has angered the other 80 million gun owners in the rest of the nation. As a long-time, dedicated anti-gunner, this wasnt Senator Harmons first legislative rodeo. Keller dropped IFMAs opposition, providing cover for a couple of wavering Senators to vote for the bill. Now they piss on us and tell us its raining? After his passing, a new leadership took over the company with many positive results. Illinois cant shut down a business that way No there is no way around it, RRA and Springfield decided their Illinois customers where not worth the trouble. 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